By Shriya Baweja
October 12, 1984
Benny Goodman was an eminent clarinetist,
bandleader and songwriter who made notable contributions to evolving music in
the American society; subsequently becoming a pivotal figure in history or
Jazz. He helped usher in the Swing era in the 1930s, which consequently earned
him the title of— "The King of Swing."
Shriya: Thank you for being
here with us today, Mr. Goodman. It truly is an honour to have you.
Goodman: Thank you very much. I can't believe people would still want to listen
to me talk at 74.
Shriya: Well, people undeniably continue to crave your harmonious clarinet
tunes. Don't you have a few concerts lined up?
Goodman: Oh yes, yes. I head to Tokyo tomorrow. I am quite excited about
exploring Japan.
Shriya: Wow, that truly is incredible. Now, may we talk a little about how it
all started?
Goodman: Yes, of course. It has been a while since I have told my story.
Shriya: So you began playing the clarinet at the age of 11. How did that
happen? Were you always keen to play the clarinet?
Goodman: So one morning my father decided to take my brothers and I to
the synagogue in the vicinity (in Chicago). I think they were holding free of
charge music lessons or something like that. When we landed up there, the
teacher decided that I was rather small and handed me a clarinet, whilst my
brothers were handed a tuba and a trombone. I would be lying if I said I wasn't
a little annoyed. But had I made a fuss about it, I wouldn't be where I am
today, would I?
Shriya: Absolutely, for today you are credited as one of the most iconic
figures in the history of clarinet and Jazz music. So much so, you introduced a new language
to it, the Swing. What inspired you to pursue this unconventional style?
Goodman: I'll be honest with you— really, all I wanted to do was convey my
passion through my music and playing all that dull music that was existing in
the 1900s was not something I enjoyed. In fact, I clearly remember my fellow
bandmate, Gene Krupa saying, "If we're gonna die, Benny, let's die playing
our own thing." And that was it, we decided that we would deviate from all
that boring "music" and make our own. What came as a result was
labelled as Swing.
Shriya: That was quite a bold step. Were you afraid of the reception or
contrarily the flack that you could potentially receive?
Goodman: Like I said, we set out on a mission of playing music that we wanted
to play. Whether people liked it or not was not the utmost of our concerns.
However, we were fortunate enough that our music was widely embraced by the
public... at least eventually.
Shriya: What do you mean when you say "eventually"?
Goodman: Let's put it this way, music concerts in the 1900s were mostly for the
posh people in town who could afford to splurge and go sit in a
theatre to admire the peaceful melodies played by an orchestra. However, when
we first played our unusually upbeat music at the Carnegie Hall in 1938, along
with it was coupled cheers, applauds, the snapping of fingers and the most
troublesome, care-free dancing. The wealthy were disgusted by this ostensibly "rowdy" music that caused people to break into a jig in public
places. It took a while, but people became accustomed to our way of playing,
and dancing became a tradition at our concerts.
Shriya: How fascinating! You were a man that broke down numerous social
barriers with your confidence and courage. You also had one of the first
racially integrated bands in the history of music. How did that come about?
Goodman: I said it back then, and I'll say it a thousand times if I need to. I
was selling music, not prejudice. I didn't and I still don't care about how a man or a woman
looks. As long as they can play the level of mastery I want played in my band,
they are in. I worked with many influential men including Charlie Christian and
Teddy Wilson. The world should not be denied the talent of individuals based on
their race or ethnicity.
Shriya: I completely agree with you. You were an inspiration to musicians in
the early 1900s and you continue to be one today. The finesse in your music is
yet to be transcended. Thank you for taking out the time to talk to us.